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Hampton p.30-36: Torso Landmarks + Volume by theThirdCartel Hampton p.30-36: Torso Landmarks + Volume by theThirdCartel
Notes and studies from Hampton's figure drawing book.

Must remember that clavicles bisect the thoracic cage coronally, and do not reach all the way posteriorly. In fact, the scapulae come anteriorly to meet them.

The watercolour brush is great fun for quick shading.

Photoshop CS6, Intuos 5 with art pen.
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TheSkaldofNvrwinter Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
weirdly, I was JUST thinking about this--found this looking for height differences in females--and although these shapes are good, they don't accurately represent the main column or trunk of the body. These don't take into account the curvature of the spine and the vertebrae and how flexible the trunk is. It doesn't just bend at the waist.
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theThirdCartel Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2013
Thanks for the comment. You're correct that these are not hyper-accurate models fit for medical anatomy studies, but rather simplified (and exaggerated, to some degree) anatomical volumes and flow lines designed to convey form and gesture for drawing.

The "bend" at the waist is the natural lordotic curve of the lumbar spine which is present when the torso is in a neutral position; similarly, the T and S spines are depicted with their normal degree of kyphosis. I think Hampton's intention was to show a neutral torso in order to explain the major volumes, not to demonstrate the full spinal range of motion, hence why the figures don't involve any flexion, extension, or lateral rotation of the spine.
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TheSkaldofNvrwinter Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
It's a good starting place, no doubt. I found a tutorial recently that really laid the cards out on the table about the spine, the way it curves in and out. I didn't mean to be critical, though.
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theThirdCartel Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2013
You didn't come across as unduly critical at all. :) In fact, you raise some great points that I hope to have addressed to some degree, to the best of my understanding and without sounding defensive (tone is always a difficulty in written discussions.) At any rate, I can only guess at the author's intention to simplify and relegate the reader to further independent study with regard to more complex spinal motions. Is the tutorial you mentioned available online? Sounds interesting!
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Bodeen27 Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2013
Excellent.. I have a few pdf's of Loomis' books!
I keep returning to them often.. ;)
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theThirdCartel Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2013
Thanks. I really like Loomis's approach to perspective and used "Sucessful Drawing" to brush up on that.

Cheers for the watch, BTW. Nice gallery. :beer:
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Bodeen27 Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013
Thanks... I've also been following matthew39arch on YouTube! He loves his Anatomy and his Getsure lessons are easy to follow. Thanks for the Comment. ;)
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theThirdCartel Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013
Cool, I'll check it out. 8-)
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Dumbaa Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013
How would I get started on learning this?
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theThirdCartel Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013
I'm going through this book ([link]) page-by-page. The rest of my notes and studies are here: [link]

I saw your journal post and looked at your gallery. The human figure is a daunting place to start for a beginner. Line, shape, and perspective are foundational topics to master before tackling the figure. Dodson's book "Keys to Drawing" is a good introduction, even if his sketch examples are too scribbly for my tastes. Read the text and do the exercises carefully. Then do some perspective exercises (Loomis covers that in one of his books.) Only start anatomy once you've got those down pat, otherwise you'll be up for a lot of frustration, wasted time, and still have to return to the fundamentals at some point.

Hope this helps. 8-)
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FireYuuki Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Really cool info here!
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theThirdCartel Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2012
Thanks! :) Noticed the studies in your gallery; what do you think about Hogarth?
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FireYuuki Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Well, I like him better than Bammes. His books helped me alot!
And it's not so difficult to understand.
Do you share my oppinion?
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theThirdCartel Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2012
Yeah, Bammes is too cryptic to learn from quickly. Doesn't help that I don't read German, heh.
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FireYuuki Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Same here. It was so frustrating to understand just from the drawings!
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ga-ren Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
This looks like a good book..do you have any further info on it?
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theThirdCartel Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2012
[link]

Enjoy. 8-)
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Rakimparrish Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
This is great i have been studying Hogarth and Loomis figure books. Seems I missed somebody I so need to find a book by this Hampton fella, very nice for some reason I cant seem to every draw that angel with the belly kinda poking out think your sketches has finally explained why....gawd studying anatomy is so time consuming. Thanks for the share!:clap:
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theThirdCartel Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2012
I hear ya on the time-consuming part! :work: While you're at it, check out the Vilppu videos--they're also great. :thumbsup:
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Rakimparrish Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Downloaded a pdf of the book:nod:
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Annamoon77 Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2012  Professional General Artist
Hi friend, I like your studiesheets. Today I searched in amazon for that Hampton book. I doesn't found it. Can you send me a link, please?
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theThirdCartel Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2012
[link]

Enjoy. 8-)
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Annamoon77 Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2012  Professional General Artist
I have ordered it. But I must wait till 28-Nov.
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Annamoon77 Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2012  Professional General Artist
oh thank you very much. it looks good. I must import this to germany ;-) pity no kindle version
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avaliable Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Glad you're still posting these. I have a few anatomy books, but not one by Hampton, so these different methods ought to be refreshing to try. This is also a nice reminder for me to practice so thanks. :D
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theThirdCartel Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2012
These are not tutorials per se, more like my own studies and "class notes." I'm very happy to share them and gratified that others find them useful. 8-)
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KanaKuroDaiya Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Cool! I'm reading (and practising) the book right now and I just got to this page (landmarks).
Thanks for posting these XD
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theThirdCartel Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2012
That's neat. :highfive: Would love to see some of your practice work!
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KanaKuroDaiya Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Omg, no, they're really crap LOL I posted some on Tumblr ([link]) I just started, so didn't do much, and realised gestures are harder than I thought ^^'
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theThirdCartel Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2012
Ah, don't sell yourself short. :) Your gestures are off to a pretty good start. They already hint at the action of the figure. If you focus less on the contour, they would be even better. ;)
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KanaKuroDaiya Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks for taking the time to look at them and the feedback ^^ I did them with the '2 min challenge' and I think it was not a good idea, since the time thingy was making me nervous and couldn't really concentrate LOL Will practise more but at a slower pace XD Also I realised that I do focus a lot on the contour, like you said, but find it hard to let it go ^^'
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Fellier Featured By Owner Oct 5, 2012  Student General Artist
very useful, thanks for posting!
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theThirdCartel Featured By Owner Oct 5, 2012
Glad you find it helpful. :D Really like the marker on canvas piece in your gallery, BTW. :thumbsup:
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Fellier Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2012  Student General Artist
well thank you! c:
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Fisharto Featured By Owner Oct 5, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Thanks for posting this. I am currently reading that book myself right now ;). Somehow I am understanding it a lot more compare to Loomis. I wonder why hmm.
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theThirdCartel Featured By Owner Oct 5, 2012
Cool; which section are you up to? It takes me ages to get through each part--I'm a slow learner, heh. I've read a few Loomis books too and find Hampton more clear. :)
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Fisharto Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I just started with the book myself, but I am up to to page 54. Although I am gonna do some consecutive days of drawing before I continue with the other parts.

Like doing some 30 seconds gesture drawing. Drawing the spine etc.
Somehow I am having more fun now that I know how it works :)
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theThirdCartel Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2012
I've read up to that exact same page! (Now I sound like a stalker. :XD:) I make myself stop and do the work before reading ahead, as it's tempting to just zoom through the nice diagrams in the book. The suspense keeps me motivated. :drool:
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